Bruce Anderson
ESSES
The 911S is one of the tough cars for me to maintain realistic values for. I
don’t get much readers feedback but what I do get tends to support my market
values. The following reports are for 911S models and more or less support
our market update values:
I have just purchased a 1968 911S the purchase price was $8750.
I bought a 1970 911S Targa I paid $9,800
1967 911S is asking $10,000, and it does not seem that he will move much.
I have just purchased a 1968 911S. The purchased price was $8750.
Am looking at a 1973 911 S red w/black interior (seats have a tartan like
insert). Car has 80,000 miles and has been garaged and is in very good
condition. Engine is 2.4 liter with A/C equipment removed. Is it worth the
$12,000 asking price?
I bought 1968 911S from the original owner. I paid $8,000 for the car and put
another $3,000 into it.
I am sure that there are cars that are worth more than my Excellent market
values and even though we only print the Excellent, Good and Poor Categories
and in the case of the late model cars only the Excellent and Good (which we
call Low) categories of cars in Excellence magazine, I actually break the
cars down into five categories, with one above and one below what we normally
print in the magazine:
BEYOND EXCELLENT: As the factory delivered it. Cars with no mileage, or very
low mileage, no wear and everything works perfectly. Possibly a collector car
or a show car. These cars are the cars that will pull the premium prices -
more than market value. These are the cars whose values are determined by
consenting adults behind closed doors often we never know what has happened
or what those values are. Often these cars are part of a trade deal which
even further confuses the issue.
EXCELLENT: These cars must be at least 90% perfect in every detail, either
original or restored to like new condition. Less than ten percent of the cars
would fall into this category.
Remember to keep an eye out for collision damage on these cars - these are
the cars that will probably be most effected by diminution of value - they
are not "excellent" if you can tell that they have been damaged. The amount
that the value is diminished will depend on the age of the car. For instance
the value of a relatively new car might be only reduced by 10%. Whereas it is
possible that the value of a 1973 911S that has been repainted might be
reduced by as much as 100%. The way that this would work would be that an
Excellent1973 911S might be worth about $15,000, but an all original 911S of
the same vintage that was in Beyond Excellent condition largely because of
its originality might sell for as much as twice the value of the non original
or restored car. So if you were forced to repaint the original example it
would drastically reduce the cars value.
GOOD: These cars should require little or no repair - mid value ready to
drive or average value for resale. May show some wear associated with normal
use. This is what would be considered a "clean" car or a "driver".
FAIR: (We call these cars POOR in our Market Updates in Excellence magazine).
These cars may require paint, Upholstery or minor repairs, but must be
basically sound and complete examples. Estimated restoration cost plus the
purchase price should not exceed Excellent condition value, this is of course
true in any of these categories.
POOR: A parts car of salvageable project car. Rough or rusted cars. The
estimated repair or restoration costs at today's prices for these cars will
probably exceed the "Excellent" value so these cars are probably not worth
owning or the cost of purchase - be careful. You should probably only buy one
of these cars if you have a purpose for them as they cannot be considered an
investment by any stretch of the imagination.
I have had one report on a car that was beyond excellent where the seller
took me to task for my values. He had recently sold his 911S for $29,000.
What he didn’t say is that he just spent $45,000 restoring his 911S so that
he could sell it for $29,000. These cars are obviously exceptions to the
norm. I talked to one other fellow who had paid $33,000 for a 911S but didn’t
want me to use the car in the readers reports. And I have had no other
reports that are above the market values that use in the magazine. If you
guys want me to use different values you will have to report your sales and
purchase.
I have had a couple of friends that were trying to sell some pretty nice
911Ss where were trying to sell them $16,000 to $17,000 and they could not
sell them. As I have said any information that I have on these cars support
my values.
A good example of a Beyond Excellent car would be an all original 1969 911S
that I saw at this years Parade in Sacramento. This car is a beautiful
example and could well be worth double what an Excellent car is worth because
of its perfect, or nearly perfect all original condition.
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